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Originally Posted by kennyc
Information is something that exists (in reality) as a relationship between two or more physical entities.
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Yes, information exists-- but
values for information do
not. A flower is a physical object that can be observed and measured. "Wow, that flower is pretty"
can't be observed, or measured. A child eating a piece of cake can be observed and measured. His sister thinking that it isn't fair that he got the bigger slice
can't. The atoms that we are made of do not care one whit whether they were part of John Wayne or John Wayne Gacy. The universe does not care about our value systems or our feelings because those things matter only to a few hairless apes infesting the surface of an infinitesimal speck of dust-- the said values of said apes having changed many times in the eyeblink of time they have existed, will change many times in the time they have left, and will be of absolutely, positively no importance whatsoever in the eyeblink that it takes the apes to become extinct.
Every last single human value, inclusive of "right" and "wrong" is subjective opinion with no objective ("objective" meaning outside of human perspective) meaning or value whatsoever. And even looking at human societies as a whole over all of history, you would be very hard pressed to find a single concept that is universal to all those societies. I'm
not arguing that-- because there is no objective morality-- there should not be moral constraints placed on people by the conditioning of their societies for the good of the functioning of the collective. But to think that there is anything "real" about those morel constraints is just silly.