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Originally Posted by pilotbob
Wow, you really got it bad for MS. The attitudes you are talking about are long gone. The IE team has co-operated quite a bit with the Mozilla team and establishing tests and better documentation of vague standards during the last 2 or 3 years (since IE 7 started being worked on).
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Now they are. But how long did it take before they had that epiphany? Why did it take IE so long to recognize that CSS existed?
For that matter, consider Windows Updates, which can automatically download the latest critical security patches to your machine. I applaud the effort, but it took them long enough to realize secure code was a priority. The efforts that led to Windows Update really should have been started about 5 years earlier than they were.
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The biggest problem web devs (yes I'm one of them but we are lucky enough to specify a required browser for our apps) have these days is that there are still ALOT of people using IE6 and 7 and Firefox 2.x.
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And will be for some time.
For example, I run a Linux distribution called Puppy Linux. Puppy is intended and optimized for low end hardware, like my old Lifebook. It ships by default with SeaMonkey 1.X as the browser/email client, because it's relatively small and quick. Some folks moved to FF 2.0. A few are moving to FF 3.X, but not many, as it's simply too big and slow on the sort of gear Puppy gets run on. (FF 3.6 takes about 30 seconds to load and initialize on my notebook. It took 45 before I migrated from an ext3 to an ext4 file system.)
It's a variant of the issue that impeded adoption of Windows Vista. It was probably not until a year after that was released that the average system being sold had the horsepower to really run it effectively.
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Dennis