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					Originally Posted by  RedHeadPeter
					 
				 
				You don't get away with that.  What statistics?  I never saw a single statistic that suggested the USA has a lower homicide rate than the UK. 
 
And how exactly do you measure 'crimes prevented' that proves the existence of a firearm did the preventing. My guess would be I could find equally convincing arguments crimes are prevented by the existence of a fish. 
 
Next you'll be telling us capital punishment is a crime preventer LOL 
			
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 Weeeeellll...  (This sub-thread is SO off-topic! 

 ) capital punishment *IS* a crime preventer.  (Unless you can show proof that an *executed* criminal has managed to plan and commit  a crime *after* sentence has been carried out?  Didn't think so! 

 )
IOW, there is a 0% recidivism amongst executed criminals.
Derek