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Old 12-26-2009, 02:58 PM   #52
delphidb96
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Originally Posted by tompe View Post
Well if they really exists this is a belief in something supernatural and I do not have this kind of belief. And if they just are assumed they do not have the same status as a natural law since you can choose not to follow them.

And from what I remember from my philosophy studies the rights of life, liberty and property is not considered to be God-given rights.
The proper view is:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

Note that property is not specifically stated - but that this self-evident truth is applied to ALL men (women too for those who need it put into words), not just those who happen to live in the US.

However, how can a person have life, liberty or the unfettered pursuit of happiness if one cannot be sure that personal property is secure?

Of course, that also implies the right to provide for the personal defense of self, family and personal property. After all, if one can only stand by while those who are stronger and more numerous steal one's property, then one has been deprived of one's inalienable rights - and the right to bear arms is the individual's means to protect those rights.

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