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Old 12-18-2009, 04:09 PM   #7107
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Originally Posted by devilsadvocate View Post
Do you (normally) let the routers' DHCP function assign IP addresses to your individual machines, or do you assign the IPs statically? What you are describing would happen if the DHCP server is off on either of the routers and it was just being used as a hub (they may default to this if reset depending on make and model)...When you said you "reset" the router, do you mean power-cycling it (unplugging the power and waiting a few seconds), or pushing the little pinhole-button on the back that resets the router to factory defaults?
I did a pinhole reset and a power cycle. (A pinhole reset doesn't reset to factory defaults unless pressed and held for X seconds.) I did not do a hard reset to restore to factory defaults at that point. I have since. I think it's an ex-WRT54G...

I hadn't made any changes to the network config on the router or the desktop. I just had network connectivity die on me.

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I also refuse to believe both routers simultaneously expired, though I've seen stranger things happen (I'll tell you sometime about how my cheapo Belkin router earned the nickname "Lazarus"). I would try assigning an IP statically to one machine, 192.168.x.y, where 'x' is usually a 0, 1, or 2; then try getting into the router again. If that works you can make the required changes. If not, try a hard reset (the pinhole-button deal) but be careful: each make has a slightly different way of doing that. The hard reset will bring everything back to default factory settings.
That's what I had to do for the Belkin.

Previously, the Linksys had been the main router, using WPA2 encryption. But I had a PDA I wanted to connect occasionally that only did WEP. So I connected the Belkin to the Linksys, and configured the Belkin as an access point. It was set to do 128 bit WEP, with MAC address filtering to restrict access to only the PDA and my desktop. The Belkin simply passed everything thought to the Linksys, which handled IP addresses via DHCP and let the PDA connect. The Linksys treated the Belkin as a trusted host, so the PDA could connect via WEP when everything else was WPA2. When the PDA wasn't connected, the Belkin was powered off. It wasn't perfectly secure, but it was secure enough I wasn't concerned.

I'd forgotten about the access point config, and had to hard rest to get to a point where I could access and configure it. Doing that required a call to Belkin support. The manual stated the reset hole was on the bottom. It lied. It turns out the rest hole is next to the power connector, but tiny enough a strong light and a good magnifying glass is helpful in finding it.

Up and running now, via the Belkin. It's not the Linksys, but it will do until I can get a replacement for that.

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I hope this didn't appear "dumbed-down" but I'm tired ATM; hope I was of some help. And of course by all means ask more questions if you feel the need-
No, that's fine. You have no way to know my level of expertise. As it happens, I've been in IT in one manner or another for about 20 years, starting on IBM mainframes and working sideways and down. Most recently it's been Solaris and Linux admin among other things, and I have Win2K, WinXP, Ubuntu and Puppy Linux up at home. So I do know a little about this stuiff...
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