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If you live near a Sony store, you could ask them to put your name on the window display list. After the holidays, they offer their window display items to people on the list at good discounts. I got my 505 back in January 08 for 40% off. I didn't know about the window display list but had walked into the Sony store ready to pay full price for a new 505 and the salesman, to my delight offered one of their window displays to me for $170. And I ve used it ever since and love it.
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