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Originally Posted by kennyc
Wrong. It doesn't matter what you call it or what the conditions are. If you take something that is not yours to take you are a thief. Nothing else matters. People try to justify their behavior by saying no one is hurt, but it is simply not true, society is being destroyed by it.
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Ok, but by that logic if I pick a penny up off of the ground, I'm stealing. If you want to refine the logic so that it doesn't draw that analogy, then you'll have to define what "taking" and "not yours to take" mean.
And I never said that nobody is hurt - I said that you cannot prove that anybody is hurt. Many bands, for example, have made a lot of money by having their records stolen. Does it balance out in the end?
Nobody knows.
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Not at all. If you possess it, without permission.
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See, now here's where I have an issue with definitions. If I buy an ebook with DRM, I don't actually possess
it, I possess a license to use it. I "have" it in a 0z and 1s sort of way, but I don't actually possess it.