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Originally Posted by EatingPie
Piracy and DRM are separate issues. Your attacks on DRM assume it's the only possible "solution." That's analogous to saying the death penalty doesn't work, so we shouldn't try to stop murder.
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No, it's not. It's saying (no analogy) that there is absolutely nothing that you can do to stop piracy. You can mitigate it to some extent by the methods I mentioned, but you cannot stop it - especially in a litigious way.
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I stand by my previous question. You can't stop murder, pedophilia, theft. You cannot possibly win. How is that different than what you're saying? It certainly is not clear to me here. Again, the crime is separate from the deterrent.
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I think we misread each other. See above.
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By US laws, to copy a work without permission is theft. There is not a physical item involved in the case of digital works, but it is, by law, theft none the less.
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By the book? Well, there's fair use, and the ability to make an archive copy. There's the ability to buy a second-hand version. If I download a file, am I making a copy? I mean, realistically a book is letters on paper. Transcribed onto a computer, it becomes letters in a file. But those letters in the file are really just a bunch of ones and zeros stored, and are meaningless without the software that knows what the file is and how to translate it. So what are you copying, exactly? In addition, I think it needs to be said that copyright law was written long before the internet, and as such it's a law that really needs to be looked at.
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Originally Posted by EatingPie
Theft, murder, pedophilia all cause harm, but different kinds of harm. Similarly, the theft of music, or books, or any other digital works also caues harm. It causes yet another kind of harm, financial harm -- more similar to that of theft than murder or pedophilia, obviously -- but harm no less.
You may not want to address these, but they serve the analogy in terms of all being crimes, all causing harms, all having potential solutions with varying degrees of success, all having legal repercussions. Just like digital piracy.
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Again, you cannot prove that any financial harm is taking place. You cannot, in fact, prove that any harm is taking place. It's tough to be proven guilty when harm cannot be established.
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Originally Posted by EatingPie
I'm in a similar boat. But, again, DRM is not the only solution. And DRM being wrong does not mean we should suddenly say piracy is not wrong.
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You shouldn't be fighting piracy. You should be giving your customers something at a value that they approve of. Piracy is just a more visible black market. Because it's free it gives the customer more leverage, but there's nothing to "fight."
Oh, and Indian may as well be an unofficial racial slur. It doesn't cover the connotations that the n-word does (which is frankly amazing - millions dead vs slavery, you'd think it would be comparable) but most people find it at least highly disrespectful.