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Old 12-01-2009, 12:20 AM   #205
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Originally Posted by kennyc View Post
How many times do I (or others) have to say I'm not talking about the law or legal definitions. That's not the point the point is doing what is right. ... I'm talking about doing what is right about ethics and morals.
This is a fascinating conversation, but I'm struck by how often you refer to ethics and morals, as opposed to law.

Surely you realize that "morals" are very subjective - rules put in place and observed (or not) in order to protect a given "society." What is moral in one society (for example, sleeping with your mother-in-law on your wedding night, as dictated by certain African tribes), is immoral in others (doing same in Sandusky, Ohio.)

Morals are not absolute, nor are they necessarily widely agreed on. The shift based on society and time.

Ethics can be even slipperier - though I tend to equate them as rules for the protection of humanity, rather than a society, though for some they are rules to protect a professional and their clients. I can't see IP theft being a global ethical issue, though I can see it being a professional conduct issue, which is, again, a subjective and non-absolute opinion.

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If you take something of mine without my permission, you're a thief.
Ken, I noticed that you published a great many fine pictures on your website. Do you have model releases for all those fine dragon boaters? Of course you do, otherwise that would be theft, right? Morally and ethically you have stolen their image and published it for your own aggrandizement and profit - so surely you have model release from every one of them, RIGHT?

Edited to add: I just noticed you sell your website prints too - $25 unframed for an 8x10!

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