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Old 11-20-2009, 05:45 AM   #190
pdurrant
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Is number 3 theft if I take it and return it?
Since theft is taking with intention to permanently deprive, no, if you always intended to return it. That's a bit difficult to prove if you get caught before returning it though. It's always best to borrow with permission.

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Or I copy it without your permission?
That's also not theft, that's clearly copyright infringement.

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Besides, copyright infringement is just another word for a special kind of theft.
This is the root of our disagreement. Theft has a definite meaning, both legally and in general use. You seem to wish to use theft as a catch-all term for wrongdoing. Copyright infringement is not theft, just like plagiarism is not theft.

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It is this attitude, that it is not theft, that saddles us all with DRM and similar nonsense.
No, it's paranoia that saddles us with DRM.

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And the law of the land is that they can sue you for damages.
Absolutely. If someone infringes copyright, they can be sued by the copyright owner. However, if someone commits a theft, they are prosecuted by the government.

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Don't give me that "corporate brainwashing", corporations are just groups of people who need to make some money to provide a living for employees and shareholders.
I don't think I said a word about "corporate brainwashing".
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