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It would be helpful if you would get your facts straight. The people who were tortured were not tortured because they were war criminals. They were tortured so that we could get the information we need to stop their comrades from killing us. And fortunately, it's been working, so far.

Name one case where it has stopped a imminent terrorist attack. Your reasoning is faulty: We torture... nothing happens... ergo torture works.

Care to identify the government involved? It's kind of hard to figure out what you are talking about when you don't bother to use actual facts.

And I'd be interested in how you know what the CIA is up to. I've actually met a couple of people in the CIA and they would barely tell me their first names. And I assumed they were lying. Are you sure they weren't lying to you?

Ok let's talk about pinochet. That is so well documented that you even have a musical about it. Don't cry for me argentina. Are you really seriously that ignorant.

Ok lets talk of My Lai. What footage of it does you dispute. The little child stripped of her clothing, still burning due to the chemicals?

There are not only dozens, but hundreds of witnesses saying it was common for amaricans to rape at will, to shoot at will. The nature of war.

If you want examples of other things the US government has had a hand in, it'll probably take a couple of hours. But we can start with the attempt to remove Chavez from power.

Actually, we do bring our enemies to justice. We kill them.

You just don't really make sure they are your enemies first, now do you. (and I am actually for the coalition in Afghanistan, and the Danish troops are deployed at one of the worst places in Helmand)

Unless they surrender. Then we lock them up until their comrades stop trying to kill us. Then we let them go

That is just ridiculous if your talking about afghanistan. Most of the lockups in guantanamo was captured by afghans. You haven't got a clue of whether they are terrorists or not.

Unless they actually ARE war criminals. Then we hang them.

Oh you really don't get the geneva convention do you.

Of course, the president is going to try a different method. He's going to bring them to trial. I think he might be trying to bore them to death. Pretty deadly stuff, sitting around a court room all day listening to the lawyers argue. It's not at all like you see on television.

You know what: with your ignorance, now I get the idea of why you are going to bury yourself in a slum of debt and inflation these next years. You are just to goddamn dumb to raise yourself above those 33% you have to pay of everyge dime just to pay the rate.