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Old 11-19-2009, 06:04 PM   #261
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Originally Posted by Sonist View Post
Well, since you specifically recognized DawnFalcon's "limited knowledge," I just assumed that you deem yours to be unlimited, or at least vastly superior.
What you assume is entirely up to you. What I claim is entirely up to me. I have never claimed an unlimited knowledge of the law.
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Uhm, if you really wish to expand your knowledge, you shouldn't rely just on a brief description from Wikipedia. Even significant modifications are covered by The Act, and the manufacturer has to show, that it was the particular modification, which caused the particular failure, before it denies warranty coverage.
I did read more than Wikipedia. I used that quote because it was easy to find again after I had done some reading and related to a specific point I wished to make.

Yes, significant changes are covered. However, when I mention significant changes I also mention they must be ones not done by an authorised or at least qualified person in order for them to not be covered. I use the example of making significant changes to a car yourself. As a more specific example if you were to turbocharge the car yourself and this caused the engine to blow up, the manufacturer would not be required to repair it for you. Or if the significant increase in speed caused the breaks to be unable to stop the vehicle safely the manufacturer would not be required to repair the car after a crash. However if the turbocharging was done by an authorised and qualified person the car would likely be covered by warranty still.

So, as I asked DawnFalcon, if you could point out any person authorised or, more importantly, with recognised qualifications, able to hack and mod the firmware of the Xbox that would be great.
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Originally Posted by Sonist
But, again, we are speaking of EULAs, an EULAs are often a shaky ground to base a lawsuit on. If MS took away the ability to sign onto Silver Live, I'd expect them to reverse their decision, either because of a court decision, or as part of a settlement.
Yes, in short, we are talking about value added extras that may or may not be advertised as being part of the purchased product. We are not talking about warranties and so the Magnuson-Moss Act doesn't even apply.

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