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Old 11-19-2009, 04:28 PM   #352
Greg Anos
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Originally Posted by Ea View Post
I'm sorry, but apart from people not being homogenous I donøt quite seem to understand your point? Of course thye might have a different idea of government than I - but why exactly FEAR the idea? That's what I still don't get. It is not sensible.

As for your examples, they seem arbitrary and "spread" (I can't find the right expression in english - sorry) - I'm not really sure what they are meant to show.

Ea, I don't think we have enough common concepts to communicate the view effectively. Neither your fault or mine. (The term you were seeking in English is "scattershot", at least that is one term for it. There are many, many, similar words in English.) I guess I'll have to ask some Socratic questions.

Have you every seen a person deliberately hurt another person?

Have you ever seen another person deliberately take advantage of another person?

If the answer is no, I'm stumped. I have to both. More than once.

If yes, can you imagine that a group could do either of those things?

If yes again, could this group not be government? Who, then, would stop it? How?

Many Americans can say yes to all three of those questions. And they know that the How? ends up having to come from the outside. And there's no outside to American that would spend blood and treasure to liberate us.

So, if we don't want an oppressive government, it's our job as citizens to see to it that government never gets enough power over it's citizens for bad things to happen. And we have the historical reminders of The Cultural Revolution (China), Stalin's purges of the 1930's, Pol Pot in Cambodia, and others, to remind us just how bad it could get.

Of course, we pay for that vigilance by not having the "goodies" of a redistributive government. TANSTAAFL.

But more and more US citizens want the "goodies" and are certain that bad things can't happen here. And they're smarter than everybody else, just ask them. So they build a stronger and stronger government, to help the people less fortunate than them (in their minds), completely certain that a power mad person could never take control of the government. After all, , it's never happened before in history right?
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