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Old 11-18-2009, 09:45 AM   #196
Lo Zeno
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Originally Posted by DawnFalcon View Post
No, melodramatic are the declarations that the network owner is allways right. And this is a thread discussing consoles, if you didn't notice. I'm supposed to discuss e-readers in this thread?

Simply because something in an EULA does not make it legal, or even a good idea. Anyone here, oh, cracked DRM? Unlocked a phone? Concealed the country they come from to purchase content?

I ain't the one throwing melodrama.

That's not what I meant... What I meant is, this is an eBook forum; this fact makes me think that it is filled with people whose common interest is eBooks and e-readers; this, in turn, makes me think that yes, there can be someone sensitive to consoles problems (I am), but they will be very few. Your words would have more effect among a community of gamers. I'm just speaking about the effect of your words.

As for your rhetoric questions, sure there is people here who cracked/hacked/whacked stuff. Hell, I admitted in my post that I own modded consoles. But the fact that other people does something doesn't make it right. Otherwise killing would have stopped being a crime ages ago!

If something is in an EULA, and 1) doesn't force those who accept the EULA to break some law, 2) doesn't ask people to renounce one of their rights, 3) isn't declared "against the law" by a court, then it is legitimate. You may not like it, but it's legitimate. I do not like Microsoft's .NET framework's and windows' EULAs but hell! They're totally legitimate!

That's why my personal laptop doesn't run any windows software at all!

Microsoft's EULAs (just like Apple's ones and most videogames licenses) are notably bad. I don't "buy" a videogame, I have a "licence to use it". With so many limitations that it even forbids me from making a backup of the game for personal use in case my DVD gets crushed under a car's wheel. Yes, EULAs and licences are bad. Devil-like bad.
But still, unless a court tells me otherwise, they're legitimate. So if you break them, you are on the wrong side, unfortunately.
What it would take is to force, somehow, the law-makers to make some rules about what can and can not be asked in EULAs and T&Cs, we already know that.

Last edited by Lo Zeno; 11-18-2009 at 09:49 AM.
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