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Old 11-18-2009, 05:39 AM   #194
Lo Zeno
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Originally Posted by DawnFalcon View Post
I'd love to think I was being melodramatic, but I'm really really not.
You sure are.
This is an eBook forum... and you're using words and arguments that look more appropriate and would (probably) work better in your favour if you were writing in a forum of people with videogaming interests.

Incidentally, I am an avid videogamer (my first console was Mattel's Intellivision - oh, the fond memories) and nowadays I own almost all consoles still available. Some in two versions, modded and unmodded.
Also, I am one of those who would love to see Microsoft close up business, and be gone for good. I'm a linux user, an Android fanboy, and more.
Yet, since I was taught from a very early age that to fight your enemy you're better learn to use his weapons, I can't agree with you.

There were EULAs and T&Cs to accept before getting access to Xbox Live. Those who broke that agreement, are kicked off of Xbox Live. That's legitimate: you don't like that EULA? Don't buy an Xbox360, or buy it, mod it and don't use it for Live. You think that MS is evil? Well, then you should explain me why did you buy an Xbox360 from the Devil Incarnate, then.
Oh, just so you know: I do think MS is the Devil Incarnate. But the Devil il Lawful Evil, to speak in D&D terms, and as such it plays by the rules. In an evil way, but it does.
And I'm using "you" as in "impersonal you", not you DawnFalcon.

Also, following the principle "your hardware, my network", MS made people unable to access XboxLive from those banned consoles, but didn't "brick" their console (as Apple did with some iPhones, instead). Moreover, if your Xbox360 is banned from XboxLive, you aren't: you can just recover your profile from another unmodded console, and it will work just fine. So, you as a customer aren't kicked out of the service. Only the hardware you bought is: the agreement is that the customer uses only unmodded hardware to access XboxLive, and this is what is happening.

Regarding the unmodded consoles that supposedly were banned: I have found only TWO mentions of this.
One is a national newspaper (Corriere della Sera, italian newspaper) which barely gave the news a short article of 23 lines, and the other is this:
http://www.unrealplayground.com/foru...ad.php?t=52924

Both the newspaper and the forum linked above report this:
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Some people are reporting that they purchased supposedly unmodded Xbox 360’s off of Craigslist very recently and found that they actually had been tampered with.
So, at least according to the only pieces of information available around the net and in newspapers, those who claim to have been banned despite not having modded their consoles are just people who were frauded by the vendor who sold them those consoles. Because, in fact, they were modded.
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