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Old 11-15-2009, 09:04 PM   #166
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Originally Posted by DawnFalcon View Post
I'm so sorry that I can share a limited amount of information, I'm sure you'd either like me to shut up and stand in line with the other corperate shills instead, or alternatively you'd like me to violate information given to me in confidence for your convenience. Please let me know which so I can catagorise you in your correct status in trolldom.
Don't give any of your confidential evidence away. Just show a single shred of evidence that backs up your claims of "mass bannings of innocent people by MS" that isn't confidential. Perhaps a non-confidential media report of it supposedly happening even. Maybe a non-confidential claim on any non-confidential website with verifiable data. Uh, anything at all that isn't confidential and requires one to know the secret handshake in order to access.

Surely if there was any evidence at all some of it would have leaked out somewhere?
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Originally Posted by DawnFalcon
"Please cite where the T&C's you list have been ruled "automatically unfair"."

Since you're too lazy to google: here and here. Last time I linkbot for you, incidentally.
Sorry, I asked you to link to evidence showing those specific T&C's you posted had been ruled unfair. I did not ask for a general law about what constitutes "automatically unfair T&C's".

You opinion is that those T&C's you listed are "automatically unfair". Sorry to tell you this but I do know enough about UK law to know that your opinion does not constitute a court ruling.

Btw, I've tried to find any evidence of a court ruling showing MS's T&C's to be "automatically unfair" and I can't find any.
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Originally Posted by DawnFalcon
"please show where a Civil action that rules certain T&C's are invalid will automatically result in MS being ordered to allow all Xbox owners free access to Xbox live without any obligation to abide by the remaining T&C's."

This is your contention, and has nothing to do with anything I've posted, since it has no relationship with the UK contract law. Bearing that in mind... why do you believe this to be the case? What leads you to the conclusion? Cite the laws.
No, I'm contending exactly the opposite. I'm contending that even if certain T&C's are ruled automatically unfair that would not automatically bestow the right of all Xbox owners to access Xbox live.

You have repeatedly stated that all Xbox owners have the right to access Xbox live. Firstly it was because of false advertising. Then it was because the T&C's might be automatically unfair.

So I'm wondering what in the law makes you believe that all Xbox owners have the right to access Xbox live even if some of the T&C's are eventually ruled to be automatically unfair.

I wont hold my breath on a straight answer though because we both know there isn't anything. Unless of course there is some secret and private law society I'm not privy to!
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Originally Posted by DawnFalcon
And no, it's not in the interest of ATVI-B or EA to piss off one of their major current dependencies until they can shift enough risk elsewhere. If you look at their current annouced games and business activity, they *are* moving work away from the 360.
The fact they are moving work away from the 360 is not proof they believe MS are "screwing over the entire games industry". It very likely is for a variety of reasons.

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