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Old 11-14-2009, 09:18 PM   #142
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Originally Posted by DawnFalcon View Post
Um, you're totally ignoring the fact that unfair terms can and are stripped from contracts if a civil case against a company is successfully brought. Indeed, I suggest you read up on automatically unfair terms...
Now you are changing your argument.

You claimed that MS advertising stated or created an expectation that buying an Xbox gave the right to access Xbox live. I claimed this was not so and that even if they implied it and were found guilty of false advertising this would not automatically give the right for those who have purchased an Xbox to access Live.

Now you are arguing that the terms and conditions may be deemed unfair. That is entirely different. I agree that if a court rules the terms and conditions of Xbox live are unfair then those rules will be overturned. However, even this will not automatically grant the right to access Xbox live to all Xbox owners free of charge and without having to abide by any terms and conditions that remain.
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Originally Posted by DawnFalcon
And there's also an significant overlap between 16-18 year olds and modders. Should 16-18 year olds be automatically banned? The argument you make is ridiculous, they're not tied to each other and detecting mods does not mean you've detected a hack.
I wondered how long it would take you to build a straw man.

You claimed modding does not allow cheating and that by banning modders you would have no affect on cheaters. Now, whether you like to admit it or not modding can and does allow cheating. It is not the only way to cheat. It may not even be the easiest way to cheat. However, it can allow cheating. I know this for a fact. Therefore by banning modders you will affect the number of cheaters.
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Originally Posted by DawnFalcon
And so... you think it's okay when a company screws itself and its customer base and an entire industry for that matter and nobody should tell them they're doing it wrong, they should just shut up and go away? (Yes, this is an "are you a troll" question)
No I don't. By all means whinge and whine about bad old MS all you like.

Just don't put your whines forward as god given truth and undeniable fact. And don't claim your opinion is "the right way to do things" when it is clearly only your opinion.

And no I'm not a troll.

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