[PKFFW]

Originally Posted by DawnFalcon

I suggest you read up on what it actually means to get banned, you can no longer use some media functionality or transfer files between xboxes if they've been on a banned one, or copy games to the hard disk. These are, undenyably, changes related to being banned.

Well again all I can go on is the experience of my three friends who have been banned by MS from using the Xbox live service and all three can transfer files and use all media functionality. I must admit I'm not sure about the copying games to the HD bit but they've never whinged about such a thing so I can only assume that is still available too.

Originally Posted by DawnFalcon

And if Xbox Live and the 360 are advertised as being part of the same service, in the same advert, as the UK adverts suggest? Yes, that creates an expectation of service. This is a mistake on Microsoft UK's part with the current advert run.

We have ads over here for exercise equipment all the time. They "create an expectation" that the fat yobbo down the road can look like Arnie by using said equipment for a mere 10 minutes a day!! There is a big difference between "creating an expectation" and false or misleading advertising. So do the adds state that by purchasing an Xbox 360 the consumer gets access to the Xbox live service with it? Or do they "create an expectation" that you do and then have some fine print down the bottom that states there is a fee and that the service is subject to certain terms and conditions or something along those lines?

Further, even if MS is found guilty of false or misleading advertising this would not bestow any rights to access the Xbox live service onto anyone who had purchased an Xbox. Especially not a right to access the service without having to abide by the terms and conditions of said service.

Originally Posted by DawnFalcon

Also... how would it not be affecting the games industry? You've just created a situation in where many people will no longer purchase any legitimate xbox games. More, many of them are likely to never purchase legitimate games again, and you've cut them off from the online store and so on so they can't purchase those games if they wanted to.

1: They can purchase legitimate games any time they wish by going to a games shop. So MS is not stopping them from doing that.
2: Approximately 95-99% of people with modded Xboxes have modded them in order to access pirated software. As has been said so often in the past on these boards with regards to ebooks, why try to convert the pirates? They are never going to purchase legitimate games anyway. So why try to bend over backwards to encourage them to come back to the fold and play nice so to speak?

Originally Posted by DawnFalcon

Sony have been far more willing in general to work with the homebrew community (until the slim), and don't use region locking - these are major factors in the lack of easy PS3 hacks. The talented people who have PS3's are doing homebrew, not brewing hacks!

Good for Sony. They are choosing to exercise their rights as a business in a way that suits them.

Originally Posted by DawnFalcon

That is the correct model in future consoles, and Microsoft's policy against hardware and not accounts is precisely the wrong one.

All in your opinion of course.

Cheers,
PKFFW