[DMcCunney]

Originally Posted by phenomshel

You can ask, but if you laugh at me, I'm going to smack you. The programs were Paint Shop Pro and Incredimail. At the time, (2006/2007?) I was doing a lot of graphics and email stationery creating. And don't even whisper about GIMP to me... it's about as far from PSP as you can get. (I don't like Photoshop either...).

If I recall correctly, there's a repackage of the Gimp intended to make it look and act more like Photoshop. I looked at Paint Shop Pro a long time ago. What I use under Windows these days is Paint.NET, an open source application based on the .NET 2.0 framework, intended to replace the standard MS Paint application. It's not Photoshop, but I seldom need full Photoshop for what I do. (I do have an older version installed. The last time I ran it was to open an enormous graphics file nothing else would touch -- NASA imagery from the Hubble telescope.). If interested, see http://getpaint.net

And for some reason Linux software devs have this unreasonable prejudice against stationery and full HTML support in email programs.... I LOVED Kmail, but not enough HTML support. You *can* technically make stationery for Thunderbird, but by the time you do, you might as well have created a complete webpage, and I'm spoiled. I like my handy dandy Letter Creator program that goes with Incredimail.

No offense, but Linux devs aren't the only ones who despise that stuff. I go through some pains to make my email clients emit plain text email, and have sometimes filtered HTML and Rich Text mail. You might think it looks good, but for a lot of folks it's a pain to deal with. (I know people who read email through Unix shell acounts, and must download the mail and run a seperate program to read the HTML stuff because Unix command line email clients are plain text only.)

If you can't express yourself in plain text, fancy HTML formatting won't help you. If you can express yourself in plain text, the fancy HTML stuff is largely unnecessary.

(It's possible I'm unfair, but too much of what I've seen created in Incredimail or the like comes from folks who can't spell or write coherent English sentences, and compound that by having no design sense, so their messages don't even look good.)

I figure my needs are esoteric enough that it shouldn't discourage anyone else from trying/learning Linux; I just never did find/get used to alternatives to those two programs.

There are alternatives to the Gimp. I run one called MTPaint here under Puppy Linux. Puppy is intended for older hardware, and a premium is placed on small and efficient apps.

I haven't seen a Linux alternative to Incredimail, and Ghu willing, I won't see one.
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Dennis