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dmaul1114 · 09-30-2009, 06:14 PM

Hardly trolling, just having a conversation and goofing around a little bit. No need for personal attacks and calling people retarded.

E-books are great---for somethings. But you can't expect everyone to want to use them for every reading purpose.

And the environmental high horse stuff gets old. I care, and I bet if we pick apart everything all of us do, people like David bashing those of us that are sticking with paper books and printouts for some work/academic functions usually end up doing more harm to the environment in total that I do.

Be it by living further from work, driving a lower MPG vehicle, not recycling as much, keeping the thermostat up/down more in the summer/winter, owning a larger house than they really need which costs more to cool and heat, haven't switched totally to compact fluorescent light bulbs, no recycling as aggressively as they can etc. etc.

So yeah, the environmental stuff gets old as I'm very conscious of it and do more than enough to offset the fact that books and printouts of journal articles (which I keep permanently or recycle) are much easier for me to work with. So I'm not going to take it all that kindly when people get on their high horse and say I don't care about the environment since I'm not willing to use crappy technology that makes my work much harder and time consuming (when I already can't keep up with my work) just to save some paper.

I do my part. When the technology is there to make the switch to e-versions of academic books, text books, articles etc. just as easy and efficient for me to use like I do the paper counterparts currently, I'll make that switch as well. I'm not going to waste money, time and effort on trying to use the crappy electronic options out there now. In 5-10 years when some company wakes up and puts out a nice 10-12" tablet that can display everything perfectly, allows on screen note taking and highlight that works perfectly etc., I'll be happy to move on. Just like I was happy to buy a Kindle and stop spending money and using paper for novels I'd only read once.

09-30-2009, 06:14 PM	#71
dmaul1114 Wizard Posts: 2,300 Karma: 1121709 Join Date: Feb 2009 Device: Amazon Kindle 1	Hardly trolling, just having a conversation and goofing around a little bit. No need for personal attacks and calling people retarded. E-books are great---for somethings. But you can't expect everyone to want to use them for every reading purpose. And the environmental high horse stuff gets old. I care, and I bet if we pick apart everything all of us do, people like David bashing those of us that are sticking with paper books and printouts for some work/academic functions usually end up doing more harm to the environment in total that I do. Be it by living further from work, driving a lower MPG vehicle, not recycling as much, keeping the thermostat up/down more in the summer/winter, owning a larger house than they really need which costs more to cool and heat, haven't switched totally to compact fluorescent light bulbs, no recycling as aggressively as they can etc. etc. So yeah, the environmental stuff gets old as I'm very conscious of it and do more than enough to offset the fact that books and printouts of journal articles (which I keep permanently or recycle) are much easier for me to work with. So I'm not going to take it all that kindly when people get on their high horse and say I don't care about the environment since I'm not willing to use crappy technology that makes my work much harder and time consuming (when I already can't keep up with my work) just to save some paper. I do my part. When the technology is there to make the switch to e-versions of academic books, text books, articles etc. just as easy and efficient for me to use like I do the paper counterparts currently, I'll make that switch as well. I'm not going to waste money, time and effort on trying to use the crappy electronic options out there now. In 5-10 years when some company wakes up and puts out a nice 10-12" tablet that can display everything perfectly, allows on screen note taking and highlight that works perfectly etc., I'll be happy to move on. Just like I was happy to buy a Kindle and stop spending money and using paper for novels I'd only read once.