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Originally Posted by derrell
Ok I've stayed out of this because there really is no point arguing about it at MR. This one caught my eye though. You can't argue that single payer will allow a better position to negotiate price and turn around and say that part of the plan is to mandate prices. That isn't negotiation, the healthcare providers will either accept what they are offered or quit providing healthcare. There isn't any other choice.
To the folks from outside the U.S. who wonder about the furor, the reason that this causes such an uproar here has been mentioned in another thread. Taking control of healthcare is seen as a huge step inside of what many consider personal boundaries that government no matter how well intentioned has no business being involved in. I've seen the long list of other socialized programs that we have no problem with, thats not entirely true at least some of us do have problems with them. We see the slow creep of government control into every part of our lives and we have serious reservations about where it will end. Healthcare is just a flashpoint that tends to set enough people off that it is finally noticeable.
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Sorry, I must have misspoken. It's not what I meant about price. First, it's not single payer. It's an option and the prices would be set in the government option, not all the others. They would have to compete as they see fit.
I understand people's concerns, but, for the most part, many of the countries in this world that have this do quite well. Is it perfect? no. Anything involving humans will never be perfect

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