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Originally Posted by anappo
> claiming that "I should have free and unlimited access to any
> and all digital media because digital media has zero value and
> therefore should be free"
Mh? If you want to build a tight and intuitively acceptable moral case for "should be not free", then you should start with something that isn't free. Which is the content of course. Unlike replication, storage and delivery of "copies", production of content has non-zero cost. Once you conceptually divorce copy from content, you can state that one of them is free and the other one isn't. Once you develop a state of mind in which the previous statement makes sense, it is intuitively obvious why paying the creator makes sense too. Once you start making sense, you can educate others.
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So you take part of a single sentence of mine, quoted out of context and specifically not including the rest of the sentence, so as to try to imply that it is what I am claiming when in fact it is not and then try to build an argument against it?
Whatever.
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Originally Posted by anappo
Ok, forget semantics. Does this make sense to you:
It came to be that PKFFW spake and said unto the people: "thou shalt not make Copies with thy computer for it is Sin!" And the people LOL-ed.
Then PKFFW spake once more and said: "thou shalt pay the Artist, for he is the source of much joy but he goes hungry!" And many agreed.
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When did I
ever say you can't make copies with your computer?
See that is your problem.......you keep taking one little part of what I say, disregarding the rest, try to apply that one bit to everything about my argument and then try to argue against it.
How about this then.........
And anappo spake and did say "thou hast every right to acquire any and all digital media for free so long as you call it a "copy", because digital media has zero value." And this semantic game appeased the people who did want digital media free and so they cheered.
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Originally Posted by anappo
And how do you do that? To "educate" people on a problem that is too small to measure -now- You would need to blow it out of reasonable proportions for anyone to listen. And then depend on anyone not to notice you are doing just that.
Alternatively you could do:
1. Get a reality-based assessment how bad the problem is now.
2. Identify forces that are likely to cause the problem to grow worse.
3. Estimate, what damaging effect those forces would have.
4. Then work to neutralize the most-damaging forces.
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Or alternatively you could use logic to fill in those parts that one can not assess through data.
Logically, if people believe all digital media has zero value and should be free then many of these people(if not all) will be unwilling to pay for it correct?
Logically, the more people that believe all digital media should be free that there are, then the less people who believe otherwise that there must be correct?(there are, afterall, a finite number of people on the planet)
Logically, if the group of people who are unwilling to pay for digital media is growing then the group of people willing to pay for it must be lessening(discounting those new people being born if we assume current trends will continue with these new people) correct?
Logically, if that trend continues there will come a time when no one is willing to pay for digital media correct?
Now, whether or not you believe that scenario is likely to happen makes no difference. Logically, that is what will happen if left unchecked. So in my opinion it is worth looking at ways to prevent the problem from becoming worse now rather than later.
Having said all that, here is how I see your reply(if there is one) going.........
Blah blah blah blah.......how can I intentionally screw around to make it sound like PKFFW is saying something he isn't.......blah blah blah.........how can I quote out of context in a way that makes PKFFW's argument seem different to what it is and weaker than it is..........blah blah blah........how can I fixate on one sentence to the exclusion of all else so as to again twist PKFFW's argument into something it is not...........blah blah blah........how can I keep an argument going simply because I like arguing....blah blah blah...........
So, I'm done responding.
Cheers,
PKFFW