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Old 07-30-2009, 11:17 AM   #64
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Athiesm is excluded from that definition of religion by the first three words:

Athiesm is a lack of belief in deities. Simple as that. Athiesm is not the belief in the absence of deities.

so what you are saying that a athiesth can know there is no god.. unless they can is it still a belief. (and if ether side can prove themself right with no way to disprove it then there would be no other reiligions)

the only way that athiesm can come up as lack of belief in god is for the person to have never incountered a person that believes in a god(s).(I think you will find no one on this world that has not) else they must chose to say that "I belief there is no god" to be a athiest.




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Athiesm is as much a religion as not believing in magic slippers is a religion.

How is athiesm any different to not believing in walking trees? Would you assert that everything everyone doesn't believe in forms a religion?
this is a moot point as they do not expen how the world began.
Athiesm does try to explan this point. that is why it is a religion and said "magic slippers" is not



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Even the (completely wrong) definition of athiesm as a belief in the absence of deities doesn't qualify it as a religion any more than 'belief in God' is a religion in and of itself.

Let's look at that definition:

This excludes athiesm as a religion. There is no set of beliefs or practices agreed upon by athiests.
athiests do have a set of beliefs they all hold
that man was made thru natual meens.
that the universe was made thru natual meens.




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None of those include athiesm either.

That last point relies on there being some kind of 'athiest ethics' that all athiests agree on, which there isn't.
tell me when you look up words do they have to meet all the diffrent useage
becuse if so there are a lot of word that must confuse you.


im also of the belief right now nothing I say will let you see my point and yet still I try hmmm.

I think our big issue here is there is not realy a set diff on what a religion is.
we each have diffrent veiws on how it sould be defined.

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