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Old 06-12-2009, 12:06 PM   #85
pdurrant
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Originally Posted by Harmon View Post
While you are factually correct about old Tom, he's not one of the "human" representatives in the book. I wouldn't expect the Ents to be affected by the Ring, either.
I suspect the Ents would be affected - but very slowly! )

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On Sam, one can speculate, but I don't recall anything at all to suggest that he wanted to keep the Ring himself. If anyone can point to anything, I'd be interested.
Hmm... you're right. The one bit that stuck in my mind, I've just looked up, and it's written to exclude the possibility that Sam was asking from personal desire:

"Sam knew before he spoke, that it was vain, and that such words might do more harm than good, but in his pity he could not keep silent. "Then let me carry it a bit for you, Master," he said. "You know I would, and gladly, as long as I have any strength."

And reading further, I find I had misremembered something. Gandalf does not say at the Council of Elrond that the ring would corrupt anyone who held it, only that anyone who tried to wield it would become corrupted by its power. "The very desire of it corrupts the heart".

Thanks!
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