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Old 06-08-2009, 04:04 PM   #53
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Speaking of bombs: The "Nazi" card is seriously over-the-top. The information agencies already get about us from legitimate channels means sorting through our trash is redundant... it doesn't put us in any more risk. All it means is money and effort spent to clean things up, with the understanding that the longer we wait, the more it's going to cost us later.

You guys sound like you won't budge until the magic fairy comes down, waves her wand, and makes everything clean, green, free, easy and perfect, without our having to lift a finger.

I think we're well past waiting for "magic wand" solutions, myself. Sitting around and expecting some imagined agency to come along and magically clean up after us has gotten us... right here. And now we know that here doesn't work. But continuing to expect that unknown but miraculous agency to show up "any minute now" and fix it doesn't seem to make any sense to me.

"Well, I don't like it" is just being counter-productive. Who's got a counter-solution?
I wish I had a solution for you, but I'm just a school teacher. I don't have the scientific background or resources needed to develop a better solution to the incandescent light bulb. I do teach reuse and recycling in the classroom and discuss the steps we should (and can) take to take better care of our planet. If the scientists who are working on a better solution actually came up with a better solution and not just an expedient one, I would be the first one at the hardware store buying whatever it was, not even worrying about the price. Frankly, the price isn't even an issue for me. Having said that, I do think that if the government is going to demand we purchase a product that is more expensive than what is commonly in use, then the consumers should receive some type of subsidy. Our tax dollars go for subsidies in all kinds of places, why not there.

I don't want any agency coming down from above and cleaning up my messes. That is my point. I do what I can with the best technology made available to me. I just don't think CFLs are the BEST or even that much better of a technology than what I am already using.

Referring to Nazi's might have been over the top, but so was inferring that we are all delusional or are wearing blinders (the magic fairy reference) because we don't agree with your statements about CFL's. I am very committed to my planet, it is actually my children's planet and therefor extremely important to me. Just because I'm not convinced CFL's are the answer to our energy problems, doesn't make me any less of a conservationist.
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