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Old 05-31-2009, 04:20 AM   #45
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Originally Posted by Andybaby View Post
It looks great, and I think the tech would work based on my internal vaporware meter,

I think this is gonna be made. and its gonna work... anyone care to take a bet.

avail by q4? nope. I say q2 2010 at the earliest. but of course I may be wrong.
Seems like a solid estimate on the timeline. My crap detector as not even blipped since I began following these displays last year. The display was a very logical evolution of the screens in the XO OLPC's...In reality they seem not all that different from the PDA transreflective displays. So, the basic understanding of the problem and solution needed to serve that problem had a huge headstart.

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Originally Posted by jgray View Post
Considering that you can buy a netbook with a 10 inch screen for under $400, that $200 for just a screen seems high. I'm sure that the rest of the netbook hardware comprises more than 50% of the cost. And we're talking street price, not manufacturing cost, which is lower. We'll just have to see how things shake out when the Pixel Qi screen is actually in production.
Don't put stock in WAG guesses about pricing just yet. We have no idea is the price is for a full touch enabled display. If so, they it is head and shoulders cheaper than the display for the KDX...$200 for a multi-mode full color sunlight readable display is nothing. And remember the economy of scale comes into play NOW not in 5-yrs. Buy buiding more multifunctional devices there will be a wider market to supply. Also laptop makers, tablet makers, slate PC makers are likely going to be ready to wade in right away as well. By the end of next year, assuming the displays are as good as they should be, but they will be produced at a rate over eink displays measured in multiple orders of magnitude.

And about such things as refresh rates...has everyone forgotten these displays are based on existing LCD displays? They will use the same drivers and probably the same controllers as are in current use. The only mode which might be different may be the outdoor mode.

And yeah, I am very hopful for this tech, it is a great move and perfect product for here and now...it actually will also put the eink folks feet to the fire for the first time...it becomes compete or begone...deliver or die, I don't care, we have other options now.

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A more general comment is how negative the owners/proponents of eink as a panecea are toward the "poor" contrast based on some very poor images taken on a very poor camera and at extreme angles bouncing light directly back at the lens. Even then the contrast is BETTER or at least no worse than the K1 I own and never use unless I want to read something outside and the better half has not secreted the thing in some hide-i-hole.

I can give a basis, I can read reasonably well on my Clie nx73v in transreflective mode outside in direct sunlight. And even in the poor images posted here, the new displays are better.

People are going to be very surprised by these displays. Unfortunately this site has become so very polarized that unless it is eink it is crap and we will suffer no other discussions. Though there are more people around today who openly express their disappointment with eink and the lack of improvement in the displays themselves.

But, I also sense we will be seeing some interesting changes on the eink front as well. More than just lower prices.

Whatever happens, it will only be great for us consumers...until Amazon starts suing everyone in sight because they have all the money and can sue others into poverty even if they lose the cases.
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