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Old 05-15-2009, 01:10 PM   #20
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I see. Your assessment of PernMUSH is relevant while mine of Dune in SL is not.
I never said that... I was saying your point about whether or not you thought it was a good business decision was irrelevant to whether or not it had a financial impact.

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You may have noticed we're in a forum here, discussing our views. Some investors and copyright holders have acted in accordance with your viewpoint, others in accordance with mine. I was under the impression we were expanding on the rational basis of each viewpoint and debating the relative merits.
Oh, sure, and I freely admit your viewpoint has merits. You seemed to be denying the FACT that such fan works can have a financial impact, and claiming so because it would be a bad decision for investors act in a certain way. All I was saying was even if you disagreed with their decision, if they still act that way, it's still a financial impact. So as long as you agree there's a financial impact, then we're good. You simply believe there are other merits to your position which outweight that fact.

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And your initial comparison was irrelevant, in that copying a novel directly from paper to pixels is not a derivative work, but a copy, presumably identical to what the copyright holder could produce. Tribute works in no way preclude or devalue the copyright holder's efforts in the same domain, and indeed can serve as stepping stones into new ventures for copyright holders who forge working relationships with them or acquire them outright.
It's relevant because the analogy was of a derivative work that does not seem to have a financial impact now vs. having such an impact later; just as an ebook copy could. Beyond that, I agree that derivative works and ebooks are different things; I was simply illustrating the point. Tribute works can indeed preclude and devalue the copyright holder's efforts in the same domain; that does not mean it cannot also serve as a stepping stone, or that sometimes the other merits of tribute works do not outweigh the downsides from a financial point of view.
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