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Old 05-06-2026, 12:48 PM   #80
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Originally Posted by DiapDealer View Post
That's where you are wrong. They have always tried to "close holes" Once DRM removal was simple with Amazon devices and nothing more was needed. Then they changed the way the device keys were generated and there was NO method available to remove DRM from Amazon books for a time. Not until a method was found to use Kindle for PC. Then after a while, a method was discovered to use the device details to obtain the key again. There was a brief period of respite for a while until Amazon introduced the multi-key method that allowed them to cycle through different encryption keys for Kindle for PC whenever they thought the DRM removal was becoming too mainstream.

Just because you weren't there for all of this does not mean you get to dismiss it as Amazon being "far more relaxed about it." There was also the fact that there were more of those who were willing to keep tackling Amazon's efforts to stay ahead. Not like the one or two at a time who keep passing the torch around today. It was Amazon who was playing catch up then. But it was not like they weren't trying. They were simply losing at the time.

And you're right that I have no interest in removing DRM from my purchases anymore. Not for a long time. But I'm still a programmer who cut his teeth on a lot of this stuff and have not stopped keeping up to speed on the various techniques and efforts. I don't have to actually use the software to stay informed. Especially since folks these days have the hubris to flaunt their code in public repositories where everyone (including Amazon) can casually peruse it on their lunch breaks.

If Amazon got more successful at plugging these holes, a big part of that is because those trying to thwart them became so brazenly open about their efforts and made it easy for them to know when it was time to get more serious.
That's interesting, and thank you for informing me. I can only go by my own experience, which started in 2011. From 2011 onward, for about a decade, it was easy to remove Amazon DRM, and there were no serious efforts to plug holes like D&T and older Kindle for PC/Kindle for Mac versions. Then at some point that changed and Amazon started to put in more effort again.
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