[DiapDealer]

Originally Posted by BetterRed

So ran RC2 on Windows 10, I still get the mini-title bars at bottom left when I minimise a non-modal window, hard to see, hard to access (with the keyboard) etc.

And that is likely where they will always mimimize to. We have zero control over where Qt and your operating system chooses to minimize the 3 non-modal dialogs we've chosen to allow to be minimized in this release. If that is unsatisfactory, don't minimize them. What we do with this in the future is not carved in stone. We're going to be gauging reactions from users. We have yours.

Originally Posted by BetterRed

So I restarted Windows in safe mode to eliminate my Windows addons, when I started Sigil i got this error:

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "C:\Program Files/Sigil/python3lib\xmlprocessor.py", line 5, in <module>
    from sigil_bs4 import BeautifulSoup

  File "C:\Program Files/Sigil/plugin_launchers/python\sigil_bs4\__init__.py", line 34, in <module>
    from .builder import builder_registry, ParserRejectedMarkup

  File "C:\Program Files/Sigil/plugin_launchers/python\sigil_bs4\builder\__init__.py", line 7, in <module>
    from sigil_bs4.element import (
    ...<3 lines>...
        )

  File "C:\Program Files/Sigil/plugin_launchers/python\sigil_bs4\element.py", line 8, in <module>
    from pdb import set_trace

  File "pdb.py", line 87, in <module>

  File "asyncio\__init__.py", line 45, in <module>

  File "asyncio\windows_events.py", line 8, in <module>

OSError: [WinError 10050] A socket operation encountered a dead network

Suggestions for next release - a) disable plugin option in Manage plugins, b) make all plugins fault tolerant to dead network.

Scratch that, removed the plugins and got the same error. I'll try Safe mode with network - grhhh

Sigil runs OK in Windows 10 Safe mode providing it has a network, maybe it could be made fault tolerant to the dead network condition.

It already is. Set the environment variable (SIGIL_SKIP_UPDATE_CHECK) that stops Sigil from looking for updates when Sigil launches. A dead network is not the same thing as no internet to the "are you online" check.

Originally Posted by BetterRed

However when a non-modal window is minimised it lands outside the main window, just as it did when my add-ons were running. viz:

And again, that's where they will likely always land if we allow them to be minimized by Qt.

Originally Posted by BetterRed

If non-modal windows could be parked in the status line that would be perfect. No need for mini-title bars, a button with a corresponding keyboard shortcut for each would suffice.

Again... I'm not quite sure where the disconnect is here on this, but we have no control over where they minimize to or how they look when they do as the feature currently stands. We might not ever. In the meantime, if the new feature is unsatisfactory to you, don't use it. I, in fact, won't be using it.