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Originally Posted by Karellen
"Expect"? There are many, many reasons why people commit piracy. Not all for pure greed. Affordability (students) or out of print/inaccessible are two that come to mind.
I am not supporting piracy, but it is a fact of life where potentially billions of people have, at some stage, committed an act of piracy. Even most, if not every single member on this forum, either with books, movies, tv shows, music or other media items, has done so. I see the piracy references in a lot of posts here, yet most are not called out. It's only when one or two particular vigilante members get involved in a thread that it slowly gets twisted into finger pointing and piracy accusations.
But in this case, I am pointing the finger at some members here that take a question and run in a different direction with it in an attempt to entrap another member under the guise of trying to be helpful. You can see it coming a mile away.
Unfortunately in this case, the OP ended up shooting himself in the foot. Obviously did not understand, or see, my warning in time.
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An interesting point of view on justifying piracy.
I have offered help to several people with books that, to me, were very likely to have illegitimate origins. Until there is some blatant evidence that the book is indeed an illegal copy, I have offered help. Once evidence of piracy (IMNSHO) is supplied, I'm out of the discussion. This is pretty much in line with what I've read in comments by various administrators/moderators.
My opinion after the first post was that the ePub was a low quality PDF to ePub conversion. The page number, the odd line breaks, the em dashes for hyphens, etc. all pointed to that conclusion. That the OP did not realize that this was a conversion was also a glaring bit of evidence for the origin of the book.
I did find some humour in your justifications for piracy. Your "many, many reasons" seem to have boiled down to not wanting to pay for books and books that are no longer available.
Just BTW, if I search for
The Color of Christ on Overdrive, it is available in quite a few public libraries. Other libraries that do not have a digital copy should be willing to obtain it on request.
And you might want to remember that piracy and discussions abetting piracy have resulted in legal action against several websites.
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Originally Posted by Karellen
This forum has drawn a line that separates legal/piracy. It is an arbitrary line and most members have become comfortable with that line and justify it in their own way. Yet it is all piracy. The one act that everyone here calls piracy is, in fact, legal where I live, and that is format shifting. If I have an original and legal copy of a book, I am entitled to make a digital version of it, as long as it is me making that version and not a downloaded copy.
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Depends on where you live. For me, I remove DRM and format shift. Since I am not distributing those ebooks to other people there is no copyright infringement which is the usual definition of ebook piracy. At most, I am violating the license terms which is a civil matter and subject to the usual legal quibbling about the validity of shrinkwrap licenses.
If I take a physical book, slice the spine off, scan the pages and convert the results of the scan into an ebook, that would be in a very iffy legal situation here since I have destroyed the original book to create the ebook. Unless I distribute the ebook, several court decisions here have stated such actions are allowable.