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Old 07-02-2025, 01:22 PM   #3296
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Now comes the differences in opinion
VISTA was a PITA (at least when I went upgrade from XPpro on my AMD Athelon)

To me, W7 did fix a lot of holes (I had used BSD at work) and it gave me Media Centre (HD TV recording).

I tried W8 while waiting for doors to be unlocked in the MS demo room. I HATE TILES. (UBUNTU went down that path )

Then W10 undid some of the (perceived gains) by removing Media center and no longer having drivers for my older HW. At least W10 is stable.

My one foray into W11 was frustrating. They buried, moved or dumbed down the users ability to do much of the stuff we had been using since W3

Also, 7 Windows machines (Celeron, Core duo and i7, AMD) and NONE will pass the W11 HW check. And I can't even use the 32 bit HW as a Remote Desktop Connection TERMINAL (That was how I did my initial 900 Calibre entries of my Paper Library that was on My home office tower. REMOTE, not a share)

So as you can see, 900 users, 1000 opinions
I really tried Vista, 7 and 10. Still have an XP, Win7 and Win10 (laptops & desktops).

Been using Windows since 3.1, NT since 3.51.
Dual boot with Linux since about 1999.
Eventually changed daily laptop from XP to Win7 64 bit in Nov 2016.
But Jan 2017 I finally wiped the Win7 content. I now have my "best" XP, Win7 and Win10 machines cloned to VMs on Linux using MS's tool Disk2VHD, though hardly used.

Win7 simply fixed Vista.

GUI & locations of Win 10 settings is terrible. Home version is terrible. The 11 is pointless "security theatre". You are fighting against adverts, widgets, stupid settings, missing GUI stuff, horrible "Modern" Apps and totally broken GUI (Is the text a text, or button, or link or?). Evil Update system. Lack of customisation. More stupid services, telemetry and settings with bad defaults than ever. Win98SE at least ran games. NT 3.51, 4.0, Win2K and XP behaved as expected.


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On XP you could easily turn off Autoruns, stupid services, animations, stupid search dog & indexing and Fisher-Price look to have clean GUI. We used NT 4.0 till XP had a decent service pack. Win2K was unfinished.

With Vista you could turn off stupid Aero and other junk and have it more like Win98/NT4.0/2K/XP-Classic, but a bit buggy. Win7 should have been free. But both less customisable and more stupid defaults. Unwanted features added to File Explorer without fixing bugs.

The Win10 isn't fixed by adding 3rd party Start & Explorer customisations. It reminds me of Win 3.0 on Mono CGA or Hercules.

Hiding stuff you don't use often is the stupidest thing ever. As is using telemetry to remove seldom used features in later releases because the telemetry doesn't say how important it is.

MS lost the plot during Vista development, back in 2003. They are now obsessed with AI, "Cloud" (= subscription on someone else's server over the Internet). They have ignored / scrapped 30 years of GUI expertise. They have largely scrapped test & QA. Update system is an insult.

Last edited by Quoth; 07-02-2025 at 01:41 PM.
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