Looking back through the posts on this thread (it's been an interesting conversation, for me at least

) It seems to me this is one of those topics where in general you come at it from one of two trains of thought and you have to in the end agree to disagree over certain points. Ultimately there is no right or wrong answer just personal opinions and thoughts. As I said it's been an interesting conversation but I think I've probably added all I can to it now, hopefully without upsetting anyone! So I will bow out now