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Old 03-04-2025, 09:40 AM   #2535
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My point is they didn't innovate or invent. I worked in SW & Electronics R&D and even had a patent.
You're not alone there (I have several patents), but that's largely irrelevant to the conversation at hand.

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They bought in stuff, or copied stuff already existing and incrementally developed it. The D part of R& D.
I think you're undervaluing the D part.

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They didn't hire a team for ARM. They bought an entire company with an ARM licence.
Pretty standard way for tech companies to build a team. Acquisitions are happening all over the place in the tech sector.

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ARM licences designs that have I/O or features added by others.
Apple has an architectural license for ARM, which means they can design their own implementation of the ARM ISA, which they did, in house, from the ground up. This is different from a design licence, where you drop in ARM's own design and add your own IO and/or peripherals.

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Apple has taken no "raw" ideas, but developed their own version of already established products. The credit due is for brilliant marketing. Not ideas, inventions or research.
I disagree. For example, what "established" smartphones were there that the iPhone built incrementally on? The user experience of the iPhone was very different to (and streets ahead of, IMHO) anything that came before.

If you're going to say "LG Prada", then think again - it was only announced a month before the iPhone (certainly not enough time for Apple to have copied it), and its capabilities and Flash-based interface were very limited in comparison.

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