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Old 05-04-2009, 09:53 AM   #94
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Originally Posted by bertold View Post
Saruman needed Grima for two reasons: one, to provide him with information of the goings on in Theoden's court (he was, basically, a spy), and, more importantly, Grima influenced Theoden (in accordance with Saruman's will) through constant brain washing and (probably, although not explicitly stated) use of drugs, which Saruman himself would not be capable of administering.
Thats what I wanted to say - because: If Saruman was able to influence Theoden directly via magic (like in the film) and was able to see anything Theoden sees (like in the film) - there would be no (continuing) need for Grima. Thus Grima is not needed in the film.

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Sure, but the whole scene was just silly. Not necessary at all.
Agreed.

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It's even sillier when you realize that the entire plan formed during the Council of Elrond hindered on two things: secrecy and the (correctly) assumed notion that Sauron was incapable of imagining anyone wanting to destroy the Ring rather than use it for themselves. So what does Jackson do? He puts Frodo with the Ring right on the border of the Enemy. And then Frodo flaunts the Ring to a Nazgul! What the hell?! Sauron had more than enough information at this point, to come to the correct conclusion about the enemy's plans.
Even if he did not get the correct conclusion (it might be that Frodo simply tries to use the power of the ring to defend Osgiliath) he would know where to search for the ring - and I wouldnt bet 2ct on Frodos survival with the 9 nazgul following him.

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But I doubt they'd all amount to more than an hour, at most, yet the whole debacle lasts 12 hours.
Well - a good:bad ratio of 1:11 is better then most films

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They just chose to go in a different direction, which is a shame.
They could have done better, I agree.
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