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galax · 08-21-2024, 08:10 AM

Thanks all for the insights.

Lol, laser DLP ereader??

The question about 300ppi color eink was without an attempt to critisize current eink technology, merely about some timeline.

I am quite happy with current eink state, excellent paper-like experience, long lasting battery, more than enough for note taking, highlighting. That is that it completes both the note-taking and paper reading experiences.

Sure more resolution would be nice but the current one has achieve almost parity or at least a level of quality that's pleasant.

Whether it has stalled or not at this point, at least for me, is irrelevant.

I see many idiots on youtube and testing the color ereaders with youtube, games and crap apps from android.

Then they start making useless comparisons with smartphones about frame rates, refresh rates, 4k, and making complains and comments such as 'eink still behind led technology'. Many reviews end up with invalid conclusions.

Let's think about two things, real physical book page turn, and pen note taking. What's the refresh rate a page turn with real hands? Perhaps half a second, which is 30 miliseconds. The second matter, what's the resolution of a BIC pen or a pencil? I would say close to 8bit or 4bit a fine BIC pencil, and 1bit if not worse a pencil.

Many books <1900 with engravings technology have a superb aesthetics. And what would that be? 50ppi 1bit color equivalent?

Black and white eink 300ppi exceeds anything physical in quality so as it stands the eink technology is already sufficient. Therefore whether it has stalled to reach 4K parity and >200Hz refresh rate is quite irrelevant on the contrary it fullfils its intended purpose.

I briefly looked at matte LCD/OLED/QLED and these still need backlight plane, and perform poorly against direct sun light, let's say at the beach.

If the display doesn't look exactly like paper matte LCD/OLED/QLED will be behind eink technology, even if the color, tone of fonts change a tiny bit when moving from shade to sun that's already annoying and distracting. That puts an incredible strain on the reader eyes. I doubt matte LCD/OLED/QLED will achieve 100% color satic picture. Moreover anything shooting light inside your brain through your eyeballs will be inferior and detrimental to eye's health for long periods of reading. Nevermind the AI ambient color adjustemt madness plaguing devices and turned on by default.

Also 30 hours of battery is precarious, I doubt any that any display that relies with light to show colors will ever beat eink.

Many novels are quite long, or if the persons is reading different materials and more than one book and note taking 30 hours doesn't simply doesn't make the cut. The last thing I need is when reading and being half way the novel to worry about the 30 hours!!

Perhaps my only gripe is the little options and a bit expensive for 8", 9" ereaders devices, ideally 10" and color eink. Overall ereaders have matured and now many vendors are focusing on eink functionality like note taking and better ebooks and pdf readers.

Another trend that I've seen is some reviewers is that they expect ereaders behave like tablets with everything, bluetooth, wifi, video player, ever more crazy cameras!! They end judging an ereader by the quality and performance of all those extras rather than simply evaluating the text/note taking experience. Like half of the video checking some videos on the ereader.

It seems that the time is right to acquire a color ereader and enjoy the 'stalled' technology.

08-21-2024, 08:10 AM	#13
galax Enthusiast Posts: 36 Karma: 10 Join Date: Sep 2023 Device: none	Thanks all for the insights. Lol, laser DLP ereader?? The question about 300ppi color eink was without an attempt to critisize current eink technology, merely about some timeline. I am quite happy with current eink state, excellent paper-like experience, long lasting battery, more than enough for note taking, highlighting. That is that it completes both the note-taking and paper reading experiences. Sure more resolution would be nice but the current one has achieve almost parity or at least a level of quality that's pleasant. Whether it has stalled or not at this point, at least for me, is irrelevant. I see many idiots on youtube and testing the color ereaders with youtube, games and crap apps from android. Then they start making useless comparisons with smartphones about frame rates, refresh rates, 4k, and making complains and comments such as 'eink still behind led technology'. Many reviews end up with invalid conclusions. Let's think about two things, real physical book page turn, and pen note taking. What's the refresh rate a page turn with real hands? Perhaps half a second, which is 30 miliseconds. The second matter, what's the resolution of a BIC pen or a pencil? I would say close to 8bit or 4bit a fine BIC pencil, and 1bit if not worse a pencil. Many books <1900 with engravings technology have a superb aesthetics. And what would that be? 50ppi 1bit color equivalent? Black and white eink 300ppi exceeds anything physical in quality so as it stands the eink technology is already sufficient. Therefore whether it has stalled to reach 4K parity and >200Hz refresh rate is quite irrelevant on the contrary it fullfils its intended purpose. I briefly looked at matte LCD/OLED/QLED and these still need backlight plane, and perform poorly against direct sun light, let's say at the beach. If the display doesn't look exactly like paper matte LCD/OLED/QLED will be behind eink technology, even if the color, tone of fonts change a tiny bit when moving from shade to sun that's already annoying and distracting. That puts an incredible strain on the reader eyes. I doubt matte LCD/OLED/QLED will achieve 100% color satic picture. Moreover anything shooting light inside your brain through your eyeballs will be inferior and detrimental to eye's health for long periods of reading. Nevermind the AI ambient color adjustemt madness plaguing devices and turned on by default. Also 30 hours of battery is precarious, I doubt any that any display that relies with light to show colors will ever beat eink. Many novels are quite long, or if the persons is reading different materials and more than one book and note taking 30 hours doesn't simply doesn't make the cut. The last thing I need is when reading and being half way the novel to worry about the 30 hours!! Perhaps my only gripe is the little options and a bit expensive for 8", 9" ereaders devices, ideally 10" and color eink. Overall ereaders have matured and now many vendors are focusing on eink functionality like note taking and better ebooks and pdf readers. Another trend that I've seen is some reviewers is that they expect ereaders behave like tablets with everything, bluetooth, wifi, video player, ever more crazy cameras!! They end judging an ereader by the quality and performance of all those extras rather than simply evaluating the text/note taking experience. Like half of the video checking some videos on the ereader. It seems that the time is right to acquire a color ereader and enjoy the 'stalled' technology.