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Old 03-26-2024, 04:06 PM   #45
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Originally Posted by pazos View Post
So, please explain how a GRE tunnel is different from an SSH tunnel, a VPN tunnel or any other tunnel that encapsulates a packet within another packet. Is you ISP agaisnt encapsulation? How about TLS?
Irrelevant. ISPs don't care about encapsulation*. I wrote "they care most about traffic, secondly illegal content, thirdly copyright violations."

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Cloudflared tunnels are a great way of "self" hosting, most likely the easier to implement behind a CGNAT. ISPs have nothing to do here. If you can break somebody's ToS it will be Cloudflare's, which is the one providing the service.

So, nope. Tunnels are legal, fine and used everywhere. You'll need to trust the remote endpoint. That's it.
It's not whasover about legality of tunnels.

ISPs care most about traffic, secondly illegal content, thirdly copyright violations.

Many specifically forbid hosting, i.e. running a website from home.

It's irrelevant how you host as regards copyright content (hom, co-locate or hosting service).

It's irrelevant what's between your home server and internet users.

Also it doesn't matter what the peak speed is, cell/mobile is connection on demand and may not connect. If you are accessing your home from the internet, rather than vice versa, you really need broadband.

@Pazos you are totally missing the point!

1) Cloudflare has no effect on legality of the content.
2) Mobile / Cell (3G/4G/5G etc) is rubbish for inward traffic or reliability. You need real broadband.

Go read Cloudflares adverts & FAQ for tunnels. It's not about legality of Cloudflare used for a tunnel. It's pointless compared to hosting [a web site], which is a fraction of the cost of proper broadband.

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[* Unless it's two way geosyncronous satellite in which case only the providers VPN works. Or if you live in a totalitarian country you better make your encapsulation look like something else.]

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