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Originally Posted by StephV
I noticed that clips that are nested under a group don't appear in the Clips bars or in the clips menus (under the Insert menu), only in the clips view, making them harder to fetch and occupying more interface space overall (if displaying the Clips view).
Is that an intended behavior? If so, does that mean that to make sure I see all my clips in the menus, I need to ungroup them?
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Yes, I noticed this too while trying to teach you about the various ways to use Clips.
Since I always use the lower-left dock version of Clips... I never really messed with the menu/toolbar versions!
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I think what StephV is trying to say is:
If the Clips are in a Group, they don't appear (correctly) in the menu/toolbar.
For example, if you press:
and you have:
- Italics
- Bold
- Smallcaps
- Languages
all you will see in:
is:
and all you will see in the Clip Toolbar is:
Looks like Clips that are in Groups are "invisible" to these alternate methods.
Quote:
Originally Posted by StephV
But these clips are not displayed in the toolbars (I deleted the "help" clip, which causes in turn the sub-menu to not even display):
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I also noticed something weird with this too!
While I was messing with the Clip Toolbar, I saw a "Help" button in the #1 spot, so I deleted it.
After "Help" was gone, Sigil seemed to gobble up the very first real clip, so it wouldn't appear in the toolbar.
So, by default, Sigil looks like this:
- Help
- [... Then the giant list of pre-filled sample Clips...]
but if you deleted "Help":
- [... Giant list of pre-filled sample Clips...]
the toolbar/menu versions went wonky too.
I didn't look much closer, or narrow down the exact bug—I just took the screenshots(+finished writing my post) and made note of the oddity.
Perhaps there's an off-by-1 assumption in Sigil's menu/toolbar logic, because it assumes the Help Clip will always be there? Or isn't expecting slot 1 to be taken up by a Group?
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Originally Posted by DiapDealer
Plus it just contributes to link rot when the images go away.
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Yes, exactly. So often now I visit/reference topics a few years old and see dead images.
From me rereading the context, I can usually remember what was in the original poster's image, but for someone who wasn't around during that time, the thread just looks like a giant mess with the warning triangles.
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Side Note: About
3 months ago, Imgur—a huge image hosting site—purged all "anonymous images" deleting more than 14 years of tutorials and all sorts of important images like car repairs.
Luckily, ~1.8 billion images were saved, but tons were permanently lost:
Doesn't help all the old threads though... but if you really wanted to recover the image, and had the original URL, at least you can find a way to get your hands on it again.
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Originally Posted by DNSB
Images not appearing is becoming a more common issue. The most common cause is when the OP posts a link to a webpage that displays the image and not to the image itself.
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Ugh, the absolute worst are these requires-javascript image sites.
These are becoming more and more prevalent now—and when I try to view an image, the dang thing serves me up a blank page.
And it's even breaking Archive.org from being able to save those images.