Thread: New Fire Max 11
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Old 07-15-2023, 05:21 PM   #33
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Originally Posted by davedeacon View Post
They are about as trivial as you can get. You google a guide and it tells you alter a switch in the settings from off to on, and then to download 4 files and install them. How is that not trivial? Anyone who can follow simple instructions can do this.
'Trivial' it is not. Trivial means:
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a. of little worth or importance, or
b. relating to or being the mathematically simplest case
It is neither a. nor b.

Perhaps 'straightforward' would be more appropriate. Trivial might cover finding a setting and toggling it, but not more than that.

That said, even so-called experts seem to be doing it wrong, e.g.:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TskU3IIcT2E

(one of only 2 videos that discuss installing Google Play on Fire Max 11 specifically; the other one has you install Fire Toolbox from XDA Developers, which is even less trivial and not even necessary to get Google Play)

He references the same guide as I posted earlier, but then picks the wrong APKs, choosing those for Fire OS 7/Android 9 (which is what Fire HD 10 runs) and not those for Fire OS 8/Android 11 (which is what the Fire 7 12th gen and Fire Max 11 run). Maybe it works anyway, but I would not trust it.

Apparently even with 'successful' install, there are some issues with some functions of Google's apps, as they assume the existence of libraries which are not present on Fire OS.

And there are no guarantees that some future update will break things, etc.

As for FTB, the latest Fire OS 8 update has locked down some of the apk's that FTB wants to modify (you're supposed to install it before any OTA updates, and then block them, FWIW):
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June, 2022. Release of Gen 12 Fire 7 tablet and Fire OS 8.3.1.
Total confusion. Google Play Services infrastructure installs but runs inconsistently. Many apps incompatible/unstable. FireOS 8 "locked down" and many system apks inaccessible to ADB. OTA update and Fire Launcher apps cannot be disabled. GPS infrastructure virtually unusable.

November, 2022. FireOS 8.3.1.3 released. "Miraculously" Gen 12 Fire 7/8 were fully accessible to ADB commands. OTA Updates and Fire Launcher could be readily disabled. Google Play works! ... just like pre-f/w 7.3.2.2 days.

June, 2023 . FireOS 8.3.1.9 released. Amazon may have locked down some system apps again including OTA Updates and Fire Launcher. ADB commands ineffective. Situation under active evaluation. Workarounds may be required and are being developed.
I may give FTB a go on my Fire HD 8.
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