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Old 04-19-2009, 01:33 PM   #390
thomasmorus
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Fashism was not elected--

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Originally Posted by Ralph Sir Edward View Post
Harry, Zerospinboson, my statement is an obvious burr under your saddle. But your responses acutally back up my thesis. Let me rephrase -

What is the inherent limit that a government cannot do, if elected, in Europe?

Look over the last thousand years. People and politican entities traded back and forth like trading cards. Not true? Look at England's adventuring in the continent ca. 100-1500. Burgundy being given as a wedding present?

(But we're modern now and such things can't happen now...)

But fascism was elected in Italy and Germany. In Great Britain, they did a TV show in the 1960's, The Prisoner, about a man under continuous survellance, with the premise that such was a bad thing. Now most of London is under continuous survellance (be seein' ya!). My point is that there is no inherent cultural <you can't do that, no matter who you are> in European viewpoint of government. Only those of the government you elected at the time, which could be swapped out at any time you please for another government that could do whatever it was elected to do, without limit, that it's electorate felt needed to be done. Even if that was to scrap all freedom or the market economy. I'm not saying that that choice is currently in the cards, but there's no cultural worldview saying that to do so is inherently evil. the people in power do what they have been granted power to do, just like an absolute monarch...
Sorry this is not correct
Fashism was not elected at least not in Germany and In Austria:
In Germany the highst voting part the fashist got was 33 % in 1931, in 1933 when the siszed the goverment they only had gotten 31%. But the president gave Hitler the power to form a minrity goverment that was when the nazis sized the Power
In Austria it was even more an accident: The austrian constitution had no privion to call an assambly except through the Speaker and his two vice speakers. When all three resigned on the same day nobody except the cahnclor had the suthrity to call the natianla assambly together and the chanclor sized they Power (to be later made part of Nazu germany )
I am not shure about Italy.
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