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Old 04-19-2009, 09:12 AM   #372
Greg Anos
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Originally Posted by zerospinboson View Post
Sorry, but that's total and absolute bullshit.
Harry, Zerospinboson, my statement is an obvious burr under your saddle. But your responses acutally back up my thesis. Let me rephrase -

What is the inherent limit that a government cannot do, if elected, in Europe?

Look over the last thousand years. People and politican entities traded back and forth like trading cards. Not true? Look at England's adventuring in the continent ca. 100-1500. Burgundy being given as a wedding present?

(But we're modern now and such things can't happen now...)

But fascism was elected in Italy and Germany. In Great Britain, they did a TV show in the 1960's, The Prisoner, about a man under continuous survellance, with the premise that such was a bad thing. Now most of London is under continuous survellance (be seein' ya!). My point is that there is no inherent cultural <you can't do that, no matter who you are> in European viewpoint of government. Only those of the government you elected at the time, which could be swapped out at any time you please for another government that could do whatever it was elected to do, without limit, that it's electorate felt needed to be done. Even if that was to scrap all freedom or the market economy. I'm not saying that that choice is currently in the cards, but there's no cultural worldview saying that to do so is inherently evil. the people in power do what they have been granted power to do, just like an absolute monarch...
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