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Old 04-17-2009, 08:16 AM   #24
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Originally Posted by vivaldirules View Post
This is excellent news though long overdue.
Why?
(dont interprete this as a statement pro or contra pirate bay, just want to know your reasoning.
I personally dislike the "political" approach of condemning all kinds of P2P, TorrentTracking and stuff and acknowledge that it has (in all likelihood) been PirateBay (and consortes) who "forced" the media industrie to get - at least somewhat - more consumer friendly (e.g. providing non-drm'd music, still overpriced (but considerably cheaper then before) download shops, etc).
In addition I value the principles of "fair use" and the right to do private copies (though it does not exist in Germany any more) and I do hate powerful lobby groups (like e.g. publishing and media industrie).
Still - I dislike piracy and I honor the laws. I do not know the intentions or reasoning behind PirateBay - thus I cannot give a detailed opinion regarding this desciscion.
IF PirateBay was actively promoting illegal downloads (and if this is illegal in Sweden) the court may be right - I am not in a position to judge this.

But: I would find it utterly disgraceful if all TorrentTrackers (or stuff) got sued simply because you are able to find illegal links to them (that is true for nearly the whole Internet). There is currently a judging in Germany that says "If you link to a page, that links to page, that links to a page ... (say: if you start a link-chain) that leads to illegal content (e.g. illegal media, certain pornographic content, etc) you *are* responsible for this link chain, and thus can be sued - and this is outrageous (in fact: nearly every webpage would be suable..).

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Example: Following said logic, linking to Heise (a German publisher) would make you guilty of divulging child pornography (Heise links (in an article) to Wikileaks, Wikileaks hosts a list of censored websites from Australia. Said list was reason for a police raid at the owner of the German Wikileak domain on the accusation of hosting child pornography...)
(see http://www.heise.de/newsticker/Geric...meldung/135461 )

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