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audeojude · 02-12-2023, 03:13 PM

Sorry if I implied that raid was a backup, I did not intend it to sound like that. Raid is a redundancy from single disk failure

I was just specifying where most of my data resides.

Sadly I was able to afford a asustor 6000 series NAS With 10 drive bays that I eventually populated with 6 8tb and 4 10tb drives. years later I still haven't been able to really afford a backup solution other than a huge stack of 500GB to 4tb used sata drives that I can piecemeal put data on for backups.

I love my Asustor NAS and their support when in upgrading the size of the raid array it ate the array was stellar.

they were able to fix it with no loss of data.. took 4 days of re-initializing the array but they fixed it. Best I could tell there was a bug in the firmware that affected the exact method I tried to use in expanding the size of the array. Other than that one issue it has run like a rock for years now.

the sadly comes in that I want to purchase a second one and migrate the data from this one to the new one and use the old one for a backup, but 1200 for the bare NAS and another min 2500 for new larger drives. Ideal would be 3400 dollars for 20tb drives

and then have the same issue going forward of no backups after I exceed the old units storage capacity unless i spend another 1500 dollars for 4 20 tb drives to use as external backup. Having lots of data cost lots of money to maintain it correctly

Other than the drives I could cheap out and not buy the NAS and just get a used server off of ebay for a roll my own NAS for 3 or 4 hundred dollars that would be way more powerful. The downside of that is your power bill to run the server is high and your power bill to cool the room the server is in is high. Over time you end up spending way more money running it than the cost of a dedicated NAS. My NAS that I am using is specd to at MAX draw 65 watts. So about 1/4 the power usage of most of the 10+ bay servers I could afford on ebay. When I got this NAS and paid the then 900 dollars for it, I was going to do the server route and save 500 to 600 dollars on the cost of it. Before I bought the server I found a server power/cost calculator that you could put how much it cost you per kilowatt and what server you had and get an estimated cost for power to run and cool it. I just about had a heart attack at the estimated annual costs. I paid for the difference in purchase price in the first year of usage on the Asustor unit. About 2500 dollars or more in savings since 2018 when I got it.

It's all a bunch of trade off's between what you can afford vs what you want vs what you need vs initial cost vs cost of ownership.

02-12-2023, 03:13 PM	#41
audeojude Connoisseur Posts: 80 Karma: 489964 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Deep South Device: 4 or 5 generations of kindles	Sorry if I implied that raid was a backup, I did not intend it to sound like that. Raid is a redundancy from single disk failure I was just specifying where most of my data resides. Sadly I was able to afford a asustor 6000 series NAS With 10 drive bays that I eventually populated with 6 8tb and 4 10tb drives. years later I still haven't been able to really afford a backup solution other than a huge stack of 500GB to 4tb used sata drives that I can piecemeal put data on for backups. I love my Asustor NAS and their support when in upgrading the size of the raid array it ate the array was stellar. they were able to fix it with no loss of data.. took 4 days of re-initializing the array but they fixed it. Best I could tell there was a bug in the firmware that affected the exact method I tried to use in expanding the size of the array. Other than that one issue it has run like a rock for years now. the sadly comes in that I want to purchase a second one and migrate the data from this one to the new one and use the old one for a backup, but 1200 for the bare NAS and another min 2500 for new larger drives. Ideal would be 3400 dollars for 20tb drives and then have the same issue going forward of no backups after I exceed the old units storage capacity unless i spend another 1500 dollars for 4 20 tb drives to use as external backup. Having lots of data cost lots of money to maintain it correctly Other than the drives I could cheap out and not buy the NAS and just get a used server off of ebay for a roll my own NAS for 3 or 4 hundred dollars that would be way more powerful. The downside of that is your power bill to run the server is high and your power bill to cool the room the server is in is high. Over time you end up spending way more money running it than the cost of a dedicated NAS. My NAS that I am using is specd to at MAX draw 65 watts. So about 1/4 the power usage of most of the 10+ bay servers I could afford on ebay. When I got this NAS and paid the then 900 dollars for it, I was going to do the server route and save 500 to 600 dollars on the cost of it. Before I bought the server I found a server power/cost calculator that you could put how much it cost you per kilowatt and what server you had and get an estimated cost for power to run and cool it. I just about had a heart attack at the estimated annual costs. I paid for the difference in purchase price in the first year of usage on the Asustor unit. About 2500 dollars or more in savings since 2018 when I got it. It's all a bunch of trade off's between what you can afford vs what you want vs what you need vs initial cost vs cost of ownership.