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Originally Posted by slayda
Neko, I have to agree with Sir Edward on this. I would maintain that there can be no justice without freedom.
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Possibly I would agree with either of you if we clarified what we mean by freedom. Complete freedom would be anarchy, and I don't believe in that any more than I believe in pure communism-- I don't think people are made to be able to live in perfectly ideological states.
Let's look at a few specific examples:
Freedom of speech - but this doesn't include libel, right?
Freedom of religion - but not including religions that include human sacrifice, right?
In any civil society, there are boundaries on our freedoms. The boundaries are fluid, and different societies put them in different places.
Discussing our differing definitions of freedom and how it weighs with other virtues might be a good way of comparing cultures between regions, as well as within countries.