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@slayda: Please dont understand my following statement negative. I value your oppinion and I really dont want to upset or affront you. But I simply have to write it.

Originally Posted by slayda

(what I call socialized medicine)

No this is a statement only an american can make. Please - read again what sozialism is and try not to stubbornly repeat what McCarthy said and the yellow press is repeating over and over again.
A general available-for-all system is NOT sozialism and got NOTHING to do with sozialism - in fact, it would be totally acceptable for a capitalistic system.
You might not like our medical system, but please use proper terms...
(Oh and calculate the overall expense for NOT providing medical services for the poor - its actually more expensive. Just a side-note, I will let you do the research for yourself).

but I hate the idea of bailing out companies that overpay their CEOs (who have led the failure) and still believing that those same CEOs can now (with our tax paid bailout) lead the company to success. This is socialized business practices, IMO.

Also I agree to your statement - again this has NOTHING to do with sozialism.
Sozialism is about the ownership of production capabilities.. In fact a capitalistic system is more then able to spend money into companies...

Although I understand the rationale of "saving the company", I deplore the idea of believing the failed leadership can miraculously lead to success. (Recall that the definition of insanity is to continue to do the same thing but expecting different results.)

I agree (pitty that we are doing the same thing in Europe. But thats politics - politicians want to be re-elected, so they try to look occupied..)

@zerospinboson: I am not allowed to give you Karma at the moment. Would have done for your last posts..

Originally Posted by nekokami

(And one-sided lists of the things invented in the US are not going to change my mind-- I'm looking for a meaningful comparison.)

Thanks.