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Originally Posted by Daithi
She very strongly defended Muslim culture by pointing out that their society had very strong families, started from a premise to not objectify women, had far fewer problems with things like drugs, teen pregnancies, eating disorders, pornography, and a Jerry Springer culture.
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This argument is entirely specious, by the way. Consider: the only way they're not "objectified" is by wearing burqas, or at the very least scarves that conceal their hair (something considered to be sensual). Look at what happens when western women go to the mid-east without adopting local dress. They're constantly stared at, called vicious names, and the fact that they don't cover themselves entirely is seen as an invitation to be raped.
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The same pretty much held for the Italy at least until the 1990s. See the link)
Anyway, it doesn't fly. Only when they do lots and lots of things to insure they don't "Provoke" men, they're off the hook. As soon as they do, the men are not "responsible for their actions" anymore.