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Originally Posted by MGlitch
...sub genres like grimdark, noblebright, hopepunk, cyberpunk, and steampunk would be of objective value.
A new sub genre called darkgrim which is identical to grimdark would fall into the category of the former. It also doesn’t sound as good (IMO) as grimdark and thus anyone proposing it should be soundly thumped with a dictionary.
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Why is there room for hopepunk and noblebright, but not room for grimdark and darkgrim?
Even in the article linked to earlier, I still couldn't tell a difference between noblebright and hopepunk. The example used was Aragorn vs. Frodo and Sam. But those are different character viewpoints in the same book.
The terms are used for genres though.
And as I mentioned, all fantasy fiction except what could be classified 'grimdark' would fall under hopepunk/noblebright. Until Moorcock and Thomas Covenant, it was the de facto expectation of fantasy fiction and really, until A Song of Ice and Fire blew up, grimmer fantasy was pretty rare.
Hopepunk/noblebright as genres would be like insisting all movies be called 2D movies to distinguish them from 3D movies.