[MGlitch]

Originally Posted by rcentros

So, is your solution to expose all kids to age inappropriate books because some parents can't afford to buy them? What rights do you think parents have in the education of their children?

Whereas yours is to bar all children based on the desire of some parents. Yes I’ll take the option that allows more information and knowledge to be available to those who want it every time. Sorry not sorry your beliefs do not trump others right to public knowledge. The onus is on the parents not society nor to certain degrees teachers to enforce the parents views. Teachers are limited in what they can teach without being terminated, and possibly depending on the school districts regulations are required to get parents consent on certain topics. No consent results in their child being excluded from lessons on tat topic. And those parents have absolutely zero right to inflict their views on children not in their care.

The problem is, when kids are at school, the parents have no control over what the teachers teach. And, unfortunately, there are a lot of teachers who think they "know better" and have the "right" indoctrinate other people's kids. This is not a recent thing, it's been going on for decades. Which is why my wife and I decided to home school.

Barring fringe cases the teachers likely are more informed on the subjects they’re teaching. As to your claim that teachers indoctrinate students, if there was any merit to this claim teachers would be paid significantly more and be treated significantly better by both parents and students alike. Unless you’re claiming that the majority of the teachers you say are indoctrinating children are only doing so on topics which in no way directly benefit them.

I'm glad to hear that. You must be in a good school district. Doesn't change the fact there are a number of teachers who do abuse their positions.

Let’s say you’re right, there are also parents who abuse their children. Your solution to the thread issue would imply that the solution to this issue would be to remove all children from their parents because some abuse their positions of parental guardians. Those opposing your view would solve the issue by removing the access to the child. In the case of parents by giving custody to the other parent, or if that’s not suitable then to any of a number of options. In the case of a teacher they would be dismissed if any of these allegations of long standing indoctrination could actually be proven. For both examples simply saying it’s so does not meet the bar of requirement.

And for the record my experience with teachers both in school and after I graduated has covered numerous districts in several states.

I think your definition of "neutral" may be a little fuzzy. The whole point of a belief system and parental rights is that teachers don't try to undermine it and indoctrinate the kids into their belief system (which is often not that neutral).

A teacher can literally not support every belief system of every parent of every student in their class much more school and much much more district. These systems are often mutually exclusive it is ludicrous to expect anyone to try and actively support the belief system of each individual. Rather it is more sensible to require the teachers not present any belief system as right or wrong, merely to provide factual information about those systems. If your belief system is so fragile it can’t stand up to believers actually knowing about it well I’ve got a nice compound in the middle of nowhere and a person in authority there who, for a percentage of your income, will enforce only that belief system.

Want full control over what your kid learns and how? Home school then (as you did) and bar them from talking to anyone who doesn’t follow your beliefs. You should also probably never expose them to the internet because eventually whatever safeguards you put in to shield them are going to be breached by them.