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Old 04-08-2009, 12:40 AM   #130
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Originally Posted by Moejoe View Post
And if you're handicapped, mentally impaired or challenged, if you can't be self-reliant, then what? You must die? You must be consigned to a terrible life without any support? What you're suggesting is a 'fittest survive' kind of world. That is not a world I would want to live in or be part of. If I can help my brother or sister in whatever way, I will help them. What was instilled in me from a very early age was that there are those less fortunate and you should never forget them. That helping and sharing what you have is far better than hoarding and being greedy.

Earn their bread is quite a quaint notion, and would have fitted maybe a society that existed in the late seventeen hundreds, but not anymore. We don't live in a society where that choice is always available. Hundred percent employment in a mass-produced age is impossible. Those who can't find work should starve, maybe? Well, they're not human after all are they? Not if they don't have a job.

Giving birth is a right of every animal and human being on this planet. It's not only a right, its a biological necessity. You would have children punished for the temerity to be born to irresponsible parents? You would see them starve and suffer when you have more than enough to give?

I'm making a guess here, but you're an Ayn Rand reader aren't you?
Providing for someone who is handicapped is a far cry from providing for a perfectly able person who just doesn't care to work. And most handicapped people can work....at the company I work for there's a man with Down's Syndrome working in the cafeteria, bussing tables. There's a deaf woman in a wheelchair working in the claims department (I work for an insurance company). I think desertgrandma is referring to people who 'choose' not to work. Why should they be provided for by those who are willing and able to provide for themselves? The resources for their care have to come from somewhere....or someone.

I applaud you for wanting to help your brothers and sisters in the human race. We need more people who want to share. But when you take, by force (I'll be thrown in jail if I don't pay taxes...that's by force in my book), the resources that I work for to provide for my family, to give them to someone else who hasn't worked for them....that's not charity. That's not giving, it's not sharing. It's theft, plain and simple.

If people can't keep what they earn and improve their situation by means of their own efforts, the incentive to make those efforts is gone. The end result is less resources to go around, because no one cares to produce them.
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