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Old 04-07-2009, 12:56 PM   #169
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Does anyone know how this Haute Autorite would work? HarryT says "judicial powers", which as a US citizen means to me that there would be due process, and a chance for the accused to prove they are innocent. However, I can see nothing in the article which states that this body would have to follow due process, or would indeed be given "judicial" powers. I know nothing of French government, so this Haute Autorite could have some precedent of which I am unaware.

Edit: If by judicial powers, you simply mean they are given the power to decide if someone is guilty or innocent on their own, without requiring due process, then I would think the problem(s) with that possibility would be obvious.
Hard to say. HADOPI is just the acronym for the organization that is created, and the wiki page on the high commissioner says little to nothing about it. The only thing I can find that seems to answer your question is this, but my french isn't really good enough to translate it:
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Il s’agit d’une autorité administrative indépendante dont les pouvoirs seront très conséquents. Ses missions seront la protection des œuvres sur le Net, en sus d’études de l'offre légale et des usages illicites, et de régulation dans le domaine des DRM.

Cette autorité a une double tête : un collège et une commission de protection des droits, chacun ayant des rôles bien particuliers

Dans le collège, on trouve des juristes (du conseil d’État, de la Cour de cassation, de la Cour des comptes), mais aussi une personnalité qualifiée en raison de ses compétences en matière de technologies de l'information, un membre du Conseil supérieur de la propriété littéraire et artistique et quatre personnalités choisies sur proposition conjointe des ministres chargés des communications électroniques, de la consommation et de la culture. La Commission de protection des droits est seulement composée de trois juristes qualifiés.

Pour assurer sa subsistance, la Haute Autorité propose, lors de l'élaboration du projet de loi de finances de l'année, les crédits nécessaires à l’accomplissement de ses missions. Selon les informations données lors de la conférence de presse, l’Hadopi aura besoin de 15 millions d’euros pour assurer ses missions.

Enfin, l’Hadopi assumera un rôle d'observatoire, à la fois dans le domaine de l'utilisation illicite des œuvres, mais également pour ce qui concerne le respect, par les ayants droit, de leurs engagements dans le domaine de l'offre légale (le deuxième volet des accords de l'Élysée). Manière de vérifier si plus de riposte graduée génèrera plus de vente sur les réseaux. Elle s’occupera également des missions autrefois dévolues à l’Autorité de régulation des mesures de protection, dont elle hérite des compétences.
So there will be a commission concerned with the maintenance of civil rights, a few lawyers, and a "technical advisor", a member of some sort of council concerned with copyright (probably a govt body), and 4 people appointed at the discretion of the minister.
The last paragraph seems to be saying something about checking for legal sales avenues, but I can't really say what that is exactly.

Anyway, rest assured that due process will be violated. That said, there are some people here who don't care about that sort of thing, which is why a debate could arise over the legality of this bit of legislation at all.

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