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Originally Posted by HarryT
I'd like to think that the people involved in "Extraordinary Rendition" do consider these matters, Sparrow. Is it justifyable to torture someone if you think that they have information that may save the lives of innumerable innocent people? It's a decision that I wouldn't like to have to make. Can you honestly say that there are no circumstances in which such things can be morally justified? I'm not sure that I could do.
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To even put the words "Extraordinary Rendition" into quotes gives them sanction and sickens me. They are weasel words invented by madmen and murderers to lessen the blow of the horrors they commit. They're used to distant us from the actual actions, the real cost to countless innocent human beings subjected to kidnapping, sexual abuse, mutilation and rape. And all in the name of 'information'. There is, and never has been any justification for torture. It doesn't work, it didn't work, and never will work in the future.
I'm finding it very hard to take any of your points seriously when you so easily find grey areas in torture, but are so black-and-white about file sharing. You say in an earlier post that you are a "moral coward" but what does this mean? That you can actually, truthfully and honestly see a situation in which torture is the right path to take? It's not a hard question to answer, really its not, and in this case it does have a black and white answer. If, under a specific set of circumstances, you can see where torture is the answer, then you are clearly for this action. If, on the other hand, you can never see any situation in which torture should occur, then you are against.
There is no grey area when it comes to the sustained abuse of human beings.